[u-u] Odds and Ends

Fri Jul 20 15:18:19 EDT 2018

Well... there are two possible solutions.  One is to have a
full-featured mail server with server-side filtering.  With server side
filtering, you establish simple rules that gate mailing lists into
sub-folders.  Potentially, you also deliver a whole domain to one
mailbox so you can give out "crappytire@" to some retailer ... s.t. you
know if they leak it to other organizations, but also s.t. you can
"block" crappytire@ and create crappytire2@ if you still need to give
them an address to get some free stuff.  Free is good :).

You could say, do this with mail filtering in a client (say
thunderbird).  This is imperfect as when your client is not online (your
desktop is turned off, say), your other devices will receive all the
mail that isn't being filtered.  You can also (say) run oldskule
filtering in a simple mail setup ... with home directories and whatnot.

... but if you're running your own mail server, I highly recomend
postfix/cyrus.  Cyrus includes imap and sieve and postfix is just good. 
Add an installation of "roundcube" (webmail) on top of that...
(roundcube has a nice editor for sieve) ... and youre GTG (good to go).

Keeping a good mail server online is a fair amount of work, so...

The other possible solution is to keep a google mailbox for mailing
lists only.  This is a compromise, but it can work well if you don't
post much or don't want to post under your own name.

On 2018-07-20 15:09, Adam Holland wrote:
> To clarify regarding my email setup, I already have my own independent
> email server, I just forgot to mention where I was.  At this point, I
> am ready to move my u-u subscription over, but I wanted to figure out
> what to do about mailing lists before I move them all over.  I have an
> "adam@" inbox now, but unless I find a way to filter mail that's not
> too complicated, I might just make a second inbox such as "lists@" or
> "adam-lists@" so I can keep the group discussions separate from 1-on-1
> discussions.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:29 AM, David Gilbert <uu at dclg.ca
> <mailto:uu at dclg.ca>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 2018-07-20 08:57, Adam Holland wrote:
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     Some odds and ends, as I tend to communicate in short, very
>>     infrequent bursts:
>>
>>      1. I'm in the process of ceasing all use of Google services this
>>         summer (I'd wanted to do this since 2013/Snowden, but it was
>>         beyond my skills and/or my emotional state - until now).  One
>>         thing I always had a problem with is how to handle the volume
>>         of certain mailing list output, especially with busier Linux
>>         communities which I am subscribed to.  It is the conflict
>>         between wanting those messages away from my inbox because
>>         they're not directly to me (and there are lots of them!), and
>>         not wanting to miss out on important announcements that I
>>         need to see, such as QA release blockers which I would want
>>         to help out with asap.  Any advice, or links to good
>>         suggestions would be great.
>>
>
>     Obviously email is a thing, given your from address.  On that
>     tune, may I recomend a completely opensource ISP (me, that is).  I
>     can get you all the way to TorIX without any binary blobs.  As a
>     perk, you get an email (and, if you like) a shell account.  Again,
>     with only open source.
>
>     That said, though, you'll want to look at devices in your life,
>     from complex things like phones to simple things like your
>     router/gateway.
>
>>      1. Is anyone aware of a service that has the functionality of
>>         Youtube but which is not in the possession of a large
>>         corporation with shady privacy policies?  As somebody without
>>         cable/satellite TV, without Netflix and soon to be without
>>         Youtube, I'm feeling like a hermit in my desire to enjoy
>>         multimedia clips and to share those with my friends.  Failing
>>         that, is there currently a software project I could host myself?
>>
>
>     Bit Torrent with a private torrent site is pretty private.  I
>     don't even tend to get notices.
>
>>      1. As per a discussion at a U-U meeting several years ago, I did
>>         try NetBSD on my old SGI O2, but never installed successfully
>>         as the disk partitioning was a nightmare
>>         <https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=46958>
>>         to me.  I did subsequently learn of pkgsrc which could be set
>>         up on IRIX to give me the compiling capability that it was
>>         lacking.  At this time I am not going to dive back into IRIX,
>>         but if anyone has a real need to try something out under that
>>         OS I am willing to make that available as I don't know how
>>         much longer the machine will remain in working order.
>>
>
>     Finding an untrackable workstation is more problematic.  The best
>     hope I have at the momment lies in the MIPS project, but ARM is
>     fairly open (if not free).  Old hardware is not always the
>     solution.  I've done pleanty of retrocomputing in my time.  It can
>     be rewarding for a sense of accomplishment, but it's less so for
>     productivity.
>
>>      1. I never found an answer to my concern about the CheckInstall
>>         <https://free-as-in-lost.blogspot.com/2017/10/checkinstall-is-unmaintained-and-broken.html>
>>         software project, something I thought would be extremely wise
>>         to adopt early as I explore more and more software projects
>>         that require installation from source.  If anyone can offer
>>         guidance as to what direction I should be looking, if not in
>>         the direction which CheckInstall was going, please do.
>>
>
>     Well... the answer to that is close to my heart.  Get FreeBSD. 
>     Not installing from source is almost harder.  And you'll have ZFS
>     ... which is just good.
>
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