[u-u] Throwing gasoline on the fire..

[David Collier-Brown]

On 23/07/18 01:13 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> On 2018-07-23 12:07, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>
>> | From: Jim Mercer <jim at reptiles.org>
>>
>> | this, combined with systemd, is what continues to make me shake my head at
>> | the knowledge level of incoming sysadmins.
>>
>> I'm open minded about systemd.  I have not had to put the work into
>> absorbing it.  For me it mostly just works (I'm only doing modest
>> amounts of sysadmining).
>>
>> I have no doubt that what it replaces was rickety.
>>
>> Some of its ideas are good.  Many of the problems it is meant to solve
>> were real.
>>
>> It feels like it suffers from:
>>
>> - galloping mission creep
>>
>> - a lack of minimalism as an aesthetic
>>
>> - imposing policies rather than enabling policies
>>
>> - lack of understandability
>>
>> - I don't understand its modularity (but maybe it is there)
>>
>> - All The World is Linux (true for me)
> This is a good list, but it lists the symptopms, not the disease...,
> although to the last point, there is *BSD and at least two linux distros
> that have bucked the trend.
>
> Now... to the disease, It goes against the very fabric of what we call
> unix.  It would be _very_ at home in Multix or VMS.
I'd say MVS rather than Multics.  I've used both MVS and Multics, and
Multics is far more traditionally unix-like than systemd.

Systemd feels like HP-UX: idiosyncratic, and all parts match a behavioral
standard that HP wrote, starting from a blank piece of paper.

--dave

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